obviously there are a few handlebar set-ups
I'm yet to try.
cyclingthelakes wrote:Can't help but add in some resources in case Busaste was not aware, the Classic Rendezvous discussion email forum,http://search.bikelist.org/?SearchString=viscount&pg=1 , not that easy to sift through, honestly, I think the discussion here is better but something still for everybody.
Also, Viscount catalog here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/strongligh ... 577/detail I think most of us have seen these.
The Viscount is whippy but highly manoeuvrable and agile, I rode it in the maze of a storage area the other day and could make all the corners with no sweat, I still had to get out my trusty Motobecane 'steel is real' bike out, there's also something nice about a bike that absorbs for a change of pace and is very sturdy.
If Busaste sees this or anyone else, here is an interesting historical post:
"Archive-URL: http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?F ... 6.0155.eml
From: "Norris Lockley" <norris(AT)norrislockley.wanadoo.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 23:53:56 +0100
Subject: [CR]Viscount frames and cycles
A great deal had been written about the cast aluminium fork that appears
to have caused so much grief to the riders of the early Lambert
bikes,and although I have been in the cycle industry actively in the UK
for nearly 40 years after having taken a short break away from it in the
60s, I was never aware of the problems with the fork.
When I started retailing again in the 70s the Viscount range was very
well known and respected, with the top-of-the range "Aerospace" model
being very popular in that tier of sales below the genuine hand-built
frames.The bronze-welded frames were known to be very light, and as I
recall, bore a decal testifying to the nature of the tubing. The company
even supported a team of Pro riders for a while.
In England at that time it was assumed that all lightwieghrt frames were
built from one of the range of Reynolds 531 tube sets..although I
remember that the 531SL version was launched in the mid-70s and Raliegh
were using the 753 tubes sets.
Accles and Pollock's "Kromo" had ceased to be produced, but frames were
coming in from France built from Durifort, Vitus, Jex, and from Italy
using Columbus and one or two less known brands.
No one in the trade seemed to know what non-lightweight tubing was
being used, apart from TI's "Tru-Wel". Apparently many reasonable
quality frames, ie good quality sports frames were using Mazzucato tubes
Viscount however in their search for "home-grown" materials and products
sourced their "Aerospace" tubing from a company called Phoenix, a
manufacturer based in Wednesbury not far from Birmingham. Not much is
known about Phoenix tubing except that it was thought to be a plain
gauge seamed , rather than a double-butted drawn and seamless tubing.
Additionally it was a Chrome-Moly rather than a Chrome-Manganese. It
might have been used by other builders but I cannot remember any
references to it.
It did however surface again some years after the Viscount Company
finally closed its doors, and was used by Falcon Cycles as the three
main tubes in the companies top-of-the-range frame of that time. I can't
remember the model, but in the UK it was finished
in a flam. burgundy with some chrome somewhere in the rear triangle. The
front forks were sourced from Tange, the lugs were long point Prugnat
with windows. The frame when built into a bike used the Campag Gran
Sport groupset. Maybe it was exported to the States. I recall seeing the
new model in the office of Billie Holmes, the former ace time-triallist
and roadman, who was at that time - early 80s - the Sales Manager for
Falcon. Billy claimed that there was a weight-saving in the main
triangle of 4 ozs when compared with 531DB.. and of course it was much
The tubing also found its way into the workshops of a number of
lightweight frame-builders who rather unscrupulously substituted the
tubing for reynolds 531 DB, but the frame decals never told the truth,
Slightly later on Falcon suffered a very bad fire in its paint plant,
the reult of which is that several thousand "fire-damaged" frames were
sold off as salvage, only to enter the retail supply chain carrying all
manner of makers' names.. including some well-known ones.
So if you have a frame answering this description.. look closely at the
rear drop-outs and if they are Shimano's long road version of the
well-known Campagnolo ones.. start wondering.
Norris Lockley...Settle, Uk
So Falcon cycles used that same sort of tubing (Aerospace) at a later date?