just got these from Canada of all places.
Cycles Toussaint get them made
and I suppose Kirk Pacenti gets them made as well
since they've got his name on them
but then they've also got Panaracer's name on them
because they actually made them
pretty much just like they make a slightly wider, white 650B tyre
and another tyre the same width but black
for a different company based in Japan.
So they say 38mm wide but Vern Gauge says they're really 36mm wide.Nevertheless they fit really well inside Gilles Berthoud's rather dumbly-sized
mudguards, being as they are 40mm wide.
So loving that really.